Direct IP Monitoring

kronium

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Is Direct IP Monitoring running yet on NextAlarm? If not, who else provides this service? I have an Elk M1 Gold. Thank You.
 
The M1 with a M1XEP Ethernet Card currently supports the Osborne Hoffman 2000 receiver with an Ethernet card. The central station selection is limited. The new SIA Ethernet Reporting protocol should make a difference when the software catches up with it.
 
The M1 with a M1XEP Ethernet Card currently supports the Osborne Hoffman 2000 receiver with an Ethernet card. The central station selection is limited. The new SIA Ethernet Reporting protocol should make a difference when the software catches up with it.

Spanky, what is the selection of stations that support the Osborne Hoffman 2000 receiver? I thought NextAlarm was supposed to be there already? Thank You.
 
Is Direct IP Monitoring running yet on NextAlarm? If not, who else provides this service? I have an Elk M1 Gold. Thank You.

Here is a list of alarm systems that Nextalarm supports for their "ABN" (alarm broadband network) - the Elk M1G is included.

It appears to require this $99 piece of hardware (scroll to bottom of page, "ABN Broadband Adapter".)

Thanks, but I'm still trying to find out who does direct monitoring with the ELK XEP. Anyone?
 
Kirk,

I don't think there is anyone. If you search, you will see it discussed a few times and the bottom line is NextAlarm said is was 'coming soon' then got put on the back burner and nobody has ever posted another location that does it. I spoke to an alarm vendor at Ehx a few years ago and while I came up with a few leads, they all led to dead end. Maybe I'll try again next month in Orlando, but I think for now the ABN is your only option. If you happen to get lucky and find one, please post it here...
 
why would direct IP monitoring be better than cellular monitoring? NA supports cellular monitoring, the Uplink ANYNet also connects to an XSP, and there are no wires that can be cut between the the elk and the monitoring company, plus with the serial connection on the uplink, you get all the information you would get anyways by direct IP monitoring. what am i missing?
 
i pay something like $7 a month extra for cellular monitoring from NA. Martin, are you trying to tell me that once NA spends all that money to buy the fancy equipment for direct IP monitoring and get it installed that they're not going to charge an extra fee for it?
 
why would direct IP monitoring be better than cellular monitoring? NA supports cellular monitoring, the Uplink ANYNet also connects to an XSP, and there are no wires that can be cut between the the elk and the monitoring company, plus with the serial connection on the uplink, you get all the information you would get anyways by direct IP monitoring. what am i missing?

I agree. I imagine that a loss of connection, i.e. thief cuts the cable line going to the house, with an IP monitored setup is met with a lesser response than a full alarm. Which is more compelling: Hello, police we've lost connection with the Smith's alarm system, or hello police, there is an intrusion at the Smith's porch door? I will take my cell connection over IP monitoring for now. Thank you.
 
why would direct IP monitoring be better than cellular monitoring? NA supports cellular monitoring, the Uplink ANYNet also connects to an XSP, and there are no wires that can be cut between the the elk and the monitoring company, plus with the serial connection on the uplink, you get all the information you would get anyways by direct IP monitoring. what am i missing?

I agree. I imagine that a loss of connection, i.e. thief cuts the cable line going to the house, with an IP monitored setup is met with a lesser response than a full alarm. Which is more compelling: Hello, police we've lost connection with the Smith's alarm system, or hello police, there is an intrusion at the Smith's porch door? I will take my cell connection over IP monitoring for now. Thank you.

What about cell jammers? My Cable line is very secure coming into the house, so it's security does not concern me. I love the instant feedback IP monitoring provides and the instant connection to the monitoring station. Now I just need to find a damn monitoring station! :o ANYONE?
 
come on... let's be real. If there is a person robbing your house has a cell jammer and knows that you have cellular monitoring, you're pretty much screwed... you're not going to stop him. Besides, if he has a cell jammer, you better think he's cutting every cable, phone, television, or otherwise, before he gets in. You're average crackhead may just cut a phone line if that... a more experienced team will cut the cable as well... but only professionals would even think to carry a cell jammer, and if you're the target of professionals, well you shouldn't be DIY'ing your security system :)
 
You think robberies/burglars have a cell phone jammer for real? Geez... Stop the FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt)...

Anyway, please excuse me for going a bit off-topic.

In reality, cell phone jammers are not that cheap. It will cost about $150+ for a jammer when I look in Froogle.com.

Anyway, not only there's NextAlarm, there's uControl, for landline (optional), Ethernet, and Cell monitor (at an additional cost).

www.ucontrol.com
 
A popular local restaurant burned to the ground a couple years ago, and the fire alarm didn't notify the monitoring company. The system had its annual inspection just a week or so before the fire. The investigation revealed the fire burned through the phone lines before it got to the alarm panel. Had they had a cellular connection, the alarm would have been sent. Bottom line, think beyond intrusion.

ps. Although the restaurant owners were insured for both fire and business interruption, they could not rebuild at that site because they did not meet setback requirements from the adjacent highway. They had been grandfathered, but they lost that exemption with the fire.
 
Direct IP monitoring has been slow to be adopted. The Security Industry Association (SIA) has recently ratified the SIA IP Protocol which should make IP monitoring adoption faster.

There is still push back from alarm installers due to the fact that IP monitoring is at the mercy of the end user maintaining the router operation for the IP channel to work.

We have used Alarm South, Inc. in Statesville, NC for our IP monitoring and testing. They have the Osborne Hoffman 2000 receiver with the IP line card.
 
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