Telephony

[rismoney]

I have pots lines in the house and a Viking doorbell setup. The problem I am facing is that no caller ID information is sent from the viking when my phone's ring. Ideally I would like to set something up, maybe using asterisk that could add "front door" to the call and I can configure my landline Panasonic phones to then ring a different ringtone based on the caller ID.

Is this possible without a VoIP card or setup? Preferably on the cheap...

 

[pete_c]

You could but it would be easier to program your Viking Doorbell.
 
Lookie here:
 
Viking Doorbell

 

[Del91574]

Pete, I'm not following you...the Viking units generally only dial a number unless there's other items in play.
 
The OP doesn't mention if there's a PABX or other phone system involved or a generic phone in use besides Panasonic as the manu.

 

[rismoney]

no pabx.  have a single line phone system provided by FIOS triple play, delivered over rj11s

 

[tmbrown97]

This actually sounds pretty fun, although I know I'd waste a ton of money and make it way more work than necessary...
 
I haven't read through the Viking manual, but I know with Doorking, there are multiple modes you can use - some work with standalone phone lines and dial numbers; some work as hotline extensions, and some will route your own POTS line through them and can ring themselves through distinctive ring.  It's all doable through the programming.  But as I said, I didn't read the Viking manual to see how it compares.
 
Asterisk alone isn't the issue - there are plenty of simple systems like RasPBX that have the brains - but you need something that can interface with the POTS lines - either FXO or FXS depending on the door station - to deal with the analog interfaces.  
 
If it were me, I'd ditch the analog lines - or at least interface both into a PBX with a cheapo gateway, then go all VOIP in the home.  I'd find an interface to the analog lines to mix them both in - 1 FXO and one FXS (look @ linksys 3102) then deliver both to a VOIP system.  But admittedly, that creates a lot more potential failure points, expense, and complexity... but that's just how some of us do things!

 

[pete_c]

the Viking units generally only dial a number unless there's other items in play.
 
Just a quick glance at the manual shows that the Viking can be assigned a caller ID and it works with a conventional POTs or PBX line.
 
C-2000B provides “Caller ID,” “Call Waiting ID” and “Call Waiting” tone when the phone line is in use. Tenants may gain
entry at each gate by entering a Touch Tone keyless entry code.
 
Note this was only a glance at the manual and using the keep it simple methodology.
 
Today here not using PBX at this time.   Rather two 2-line systems and one is a Panasonic.  The calls do go through multiple Way2Call devices and the CID's and or numbers get changed. The doorbell ring sends out a CID/Number to the phones with no intercom in to play.  In coming calls are left alone first time then either gets changed, dropped or rerouted on subsequent calls.  I can also place an outbound call spoofing the number and CID with the same device.  (I do not though). All of this is using analogue telephony and and W2C boxes. 
 
You can too as mentioned just change over to a combination PBX system mixing the two systems and do a bit more magic with the phones, CID et al.
 
I have been playing with software PBX stuff but not directly related to my current phone system between touchscreen tablets with webcameras attached in an intercom like fashion which does work and could be integrated at some future date mixing it in with the analogue lines and would be adding a bit to the management of the telephones in the house. 

 

[Del91574]

the Viking units generally only dial a number unless there's other items in play.
 
Just a quick glance at the manual shows that the Viking can be assigned a caller ID and it works with a conventional POTs or PBX line.
 
C-2000B provides “Caller ID,” “Call Waiting ID” and “Call Waiting” tone when the phone line is in use. Tenants may gain
entry at each gate by entering a Touch Tone keyless entry code.
 
Note this was only a glance at the manual and using the keep it simple methodology.

We'd need to know what Viking is installed. They offer cheaper plastic based units with less install.
 
The C2000B isn't a part of a normal install, so that'd be an expense.

 

[pete_c]

Yeah looking at a previous post it is a Viking C200 which doesn't offer what the C2000 offers.
 
The C-200 allows single line telephones or a telephone system to share a phone line with a
single Viking entry phone. Tenants may answer an entry phone call and converse with the visitor.

The C-200 provides a “Call Waiting” tone when the phone line is in use.

Tenants may call out to the entry phone for monitoring purposes. Auxiliary contacts are provided to operate a doorbell, or activate a camera, lights, etc. NOTE: Not for use with a door strike.
 
If additional features (such as doorstrike, multiple entry phones with caller ID, and keyless entry) are needed, use the Viking model C-2000B

 

[rismoney]

i am thinking i could maybe hook up an OBI for about ~40 and use a google voice # for free.  it may add some latency...
the other option is hook up a door chime to this, and see if i can disable the phone ringing capability altogether.  When I have a party, and people start showing up and everyone rings the doorbell, things get nutty with the phone constantly ringing.

 

[rismoney]

I am changing direction.   Is it possible to use the Aux Relay capabilities option to trigger homeseer somehow?  What would I need to buy?

 

[rismoney]

Maybe I could hack a door/window sensor and get a zwave USB stick?

 

[pete_c]

Yup; Homeseer sells an multiple digital analog IO board with a plugin. 
 
You can also do it with Z-Wave.  I use an X10 wireless door/window sensor for my Rainbird rain sensor.
 
Wired sensors here though are mostly connected to the Leviton Omni Pro 2 panel.
 
Did a doorbell endeavor a few years back using a couple of circuit boards from ELK.  More recently installed an LED ring style outdoor doorbell.  Works well and is integrated with my panel.
 
I do also have multiple 1-Wire networks which talk temp, humidity, barometic pressure, water meter, lightning, etc connected to Homeseer.
 
Here its been a few years using Ooma and it works fine for me.

 

[Del91574]

What viking do you have?

 

[rismoney]

I have the viking C-200 and a channel vision p-0920 in my stock of parts.  They're roughly equivlant parts.

 

[rismoney]

not sure if it is relevant but i have a upb lighting system,but thats probably not helpful in this scenario.