TED and UPB
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TED, in theory, says it works with X-10, but TED and X-10 transmit on the powerline using the same means but with slightly different frequencies. (TED actually used a modified X-10 chip for its transmissions.) As you have discovered, the frequency differences are not enough to avoid problems with X-10. UPB is completely difference in how it communicates so shouldn't bother TED.pete_c said:
pete_c
Guru
Personally didn't even think that TED was in business any more.
The hardware modifications I did here were to directly access the data and by pass the cloud stuff.
My modifications worked except for the X10 noise so all of the hardware was discarded to the automation catch all box.
See here:
Very Cheap TED 1001 House Power Monitors (and possible hacking)
The hardware modifications I did here were to directly access the data and by pass the cloud stuff.
My modifications worked except for the X10 noise so all of the hardware was discarded to the automation catch all box.
See here:
Very Cheap TED 1001 House Power Monitors (and possible hacking)
pete_c
Guru
It is easy to figure out what it is that consumes the most electric in your home. An energy monitor in your fuse panel works too.
If you have a remote cellular connection to your HVAC...turn it and off and watch your electric meter.
I did have all electric appliances in FL except for the swimming pool heater which ran on gas.
New refrigerators / freezers these days utilize much less electricity than older (greater than 10 years old).
New HVAC (2-3 years old) was much more efficient than the new one installed with the new house build around 1999, BUT not enough to leave it connected to a generator.
Worked better with solar panels in the old house. The large gas tank was buried but probably would have only worked for a few days with a generator.
I priced a 16 Kw generator for the basics in FL many years ago. Only issue related to the use of gas.
So personally would have used generator for essentials like lightning and refrigerators. Would have cooked on a grill outside and not turn on the AC for any reason.
Uncle in St. Petersburg just got his electric on yesterday.
For commercial it was a tank (large) of kerosene that worked better. Tested this in Texas for an office with two floors running the generator for 7 days post hurricane before needing fuel.
Personally would try to get off or lighten the load on the grid using multiple solar panels. Automator peer north of Tampa had solar panels for electricity installed and he keeps his AC on most of the time and sells his electric back to the utility company.
Another automator peer in DC spent some $60 k for solar panels and doesn't utilize his AC at all probably cuz he paid a lot for nothing.
If you have a remote cellular connection to your HVAC...turn it and off and watch your electric meter.
I did have all electric appliances in FL except for the swimming pool heater which ran on gas.
New refrigerators / freezers these days utilize much less electricity than older (greater than 10 years old).
New HVAC (2-3 years old) was much more efficient than the new one installed with the new house build around 1999, BUT not enough to leave it connected to a generator.
Worked better with solar panels in the old house. The large gas tank was buried but probably would have only worked for a few days with a generator.
I priced a 16 Kw generator for the basics in FL many years ago. Only issue related to the use of gas.
So personally would have used generator for essentials like lightning and refrigerators. Would have cooked on a grill outside and not turn on the AC for any reason.
Uncle in St. Petersburg just got his electric on yesterday.
For commercial it was a tank (large) of kerosene that worked better. Tested this in Texas for an office with two floors running the generator for 7 days post hurricane before needing fuel.
Personally would try to get off or lighten the load on the grid using multiple solar panels. Automator peer north of Tampa had solar panels for electricity installed and he keeps his AC on most of the time and sells his electric back to the utility company.
Another automator peer in DC spent some $60 k for solar panels and doesn't utilize his AC at all probably cuz he paid a lot for nothing.
Right I mean I know the AC is what kills it. There is a KW monitor thats realtime but with no historic readings. FPL is screwing the homeowners with legislation and while we are the sunniest state we lag behind the country by state because of this in terms of solar panels! I am going to change a few things to work off my propane but during this crisis it was a big problem trying to get someone to deliver!
pete_c
Guru
Relating to the automator peer in Florida it was an issue to make sure he got what he paid for and then discounted.
Many willy nilly solar panel installers basically jack up their prices then use the state discounts to make deals.
He learned about it and probably knew more about solar panels than the installers and baby sat the entire installation to make sure they did it right.
Many willy nilly solar panel installers basically jack up their prices then use the state discounts to make deals.
He learned about it and probably knew more about solar panels than the installers and baby sat the entire installation to make sure they did it right.
Our utilities in AZ have also been tiring to screw their customers as much as possible. First they got the electric reimbursement rates for selling back solar power to be so low, its just not worth it to have solar here anymore. So they charge you a high rate for power, but reimburse you at a very low rate. But here is the thing, when you "sell back" power to the utility, it never really goes back to the utility. Instead it simply goes back to the nearest neighbor where the neighbor now pays a high rate for the same electricity.
But wait, there is more. Our "high rate" used to run from noon to 7pm weekdays, and we are grandfathered in. But they just switched the peak to 3pm to 8pm. Why? Because solar power is less during that span, so they can pay you much less during the noon to 3pm span when solar output is the highest.
The only real solution is solar and batteries so you can generate all your power and say goodbye to the utility, but prices are still high for this.
But wait, there is more. Our "high rate" used to run from noon to 7pm weekdays, and we are grandfathered in. But they just switched the peak to 3pm to 8pm. Why? Because solar power is less during that span, so they can pay you much less during the noon to 3pm span when solar output is the highest.
The only real solution is solar and batteries so you can generate all your power and say goodbye to the utility, but prices are still high for this.
