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Mar 23 2008, 12:15 AM
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Advanced Cocooner ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Posts: 366 Joined: 07.23.07 From: Orlando, FL 32825 Member No.: 3308 |
[How To] How To Wire A Wireless Doorbell to Elk M1 Gold
Products you'll need:
I've attached the photo showing the back of the doorbell receiver. This post has been edited by Grayson Peddie: Mar 27 2008, 10:33 PM |
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Mar 30 2008, 01:34 PM
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Advanced Cocooner ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Posts: 106 Joined: 11.08.06 Member No.: 2377 |
Grayson,
Nice job! I didn't realize you could perform a rule via ELK M1 by analog voltage. I will most likely use this feature in the future. Thanks, Rod |
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Mar 30 2008, 02:40 PM
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Advanced Cocooner ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Posts: 366 Joined: 07.23.07 From: Orlando, FL 32825 Member No.: 3308 |
Hi, thanks!
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Apr 9 2008, 11:56 AM
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Advanced Cocooner ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Posts: 366 Joined: 07.23.07 From: Orlando, FL 32825 Member No.: 3308 |
When I press the wireless doorbell button, my "modified" wireless doorbell receiver receives the signal from the transmitter, and then sends it to Elk M1 Gold (a security and automation system from Elk). Elk announces "someone at front door" and while doing so, it makes the light go off and on. Click in the image above to watch the video. |
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Apr 9 2008, 01:34 PM
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Cocoonut ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Posts: 1045 Joined: 01.16.04 Member No.: 39 |
Now that you've got this set up, don't forget that you can use the same procedure to monitor other things.
You can replace the switch in the doorbell transmitter with a different switch (like a magnetic door/window switch), or several switches in parallel, to monitor anything you want. I have used a wireless doorbell to monitor the status of a washing machine (the light goes out when the wash is finished and effectively "presses the doorbell" to let me know it's finished). Some of the receivers will work with multiple transmitters that can be set up for back door and front door, for example. The front door transmitter causes the receiver to DING-DONG while the back door transmitter just causes it to go DING. If your Elk script can tell the difference between one ding and two, you pick up two sensors with one receiver. |
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Apr 9 2008, 02:37 PM
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Advanced Cocooner ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Posts: 366 Joined: 07.23.07 From: Orlando, FL 32825 Member No.: 3308 |
That is, if you have a relay for that. How can I do that when it comes to checking for voltage? Plus, how do I trigger an alarm if a certain voltage is reached, like when a door is opened where there's a magnet next to a reed switch? I'd rather get myself a GE NX-548E wireless receiver and a door/window sensor. Much easier.
I'd rather get a second wireless doorbell transmitter/receiver and set a jumper to a different pin than just having to solder a wire to eliminate the resistor and solder a wire to the transistor just to connect to Elk M1 Gold. I just want to save myself a trouble by not having to use soldering ion. My apartment doesn't have a washer/dryer hookup, though. This post has been edited by Grayson Peddie: Apr 9 2008, 02:41 PM |
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Apr 9 2008, 03:19 PM
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Cocoonut ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Posts: 1045 Joined: 01.16.04 Member No.: 39 |
That is, if you have a relay for that. How can I do that when it comes to checking for voltage? Plus, how do I trigger an alarm if a certain voltage is reached, like when a door is opened where there's a magnet next to a reed switch? You wire the switch in parallel with the switch on the doorbell transmitter (or replace the button switch). Your reed switch opening and closing is just like someone pushing the button. On the Elk side, you shouldn't need any other hardware. You just need to look for the voltage going up, then down, then up again. If it doesn't go up again within a certain time (1 sec or so), then you got a a single DING. If it goes up, down, up you got a DING-DONG. You act appropriately. I don't know how easy it is to do with the Elk. QUOTE My apartment doesn't have a washer/dryer hookup, though. I have hookups but no washer/dryer. They are down two floors. That's why it's nice to have something tell me when they are finished. This post has been edited by smee: Apr 9 2008, 03:20 PM |
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Apr 9 2008, 04:52 PM
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Advanced Cocooner ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Posts: 366 Joined: 07.23.07 From: Orlando, FL 32825 Member No.: 3308 |
Okay. Let me get this straight.
For a single ding, my voltage is currently alternating between 4.2 to 4.3 volts. If I press a doorbell button, I get like 3.6 volts. So: 4.2 volts -> doorbell pressed -> 3.6 volts for 4 seconds -> after silence, goes up to 4.2 volts So, what you're trying to say is this: 4.2 volts -> doorbell pressed -> 3.6 volts for 2 seconds -> 4.2 volts and immediately down to 3.6 volts for two seconds -> back up to 4.2 volts Am I getting this clear? This post has been edited by Grayson Peddie: Apr 9 2008, 04:52 PM |
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Apr 9 2008, 05:09 PM
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Cocoonut ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Posts: 1045 Joined: 01.16.04 Member No.: 39 |
I think you've got the right pattern. But I don't know about the times. If the transition between DING and DONG is too quick, you won't be able to pick it up with the Elk - unless you check very often.
As I understand it, your voltage goes down during a DING. Assume "-" is a high voltage and "_" is a low voltage. The DING pattern would be: ----_---- The DING-DONG pattern would be: ----_-_---- The "----" indicates the inactive state. When I was playing with a doorbell several years ago, I found two pins on one of the chips that were activated for front and rear doors. It required some soldering, but I used the signals from them instead of getting the speaker output. These were much cleaner to work with but required more work. This post has been edited by smee: Apr 9 2008, 05:10 PM |
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Apr 9 2008, 05:39 PM
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Advanced Cocooner ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Registered Posts: 366 Joined: 07.23.07 From: Orlando, FL 32825 Member No.: 3308 |
So in this case, maybe this will require less than 100 milliseconds between the transitiion from the DING to a DONG?
I can only check for a time interval of one second when checking for a whenever/then condition. In that case, I'd have to connect a relay to the speaker wires, which I could do that with wire nuts, but I don't know how to bypass the resistor that's built into a cirbuit board... Oh, and by the way, I think it seems logical for me that it's better to have a second doorbell receiver and set tthe "jumper" to a different "channel," meaning that one transmitter/receiver can operate in a different frequency than the other. Although it does require a second zone and that there can be a second wire travelling next to the base of the wall, until the end of where I want to put the wireless receiver at, this cuts down the time for when the rule gets triggered and eliminates the need for a counter. With an analog zone, it will take more time to trigger a rule, but with a relay (when setup properly), a counter of 2 will trigger a rule when the non-alarm zone gets "unsecured" again. So with an analog zone and a one-second interval, with a press of a doorbell button, this allows me to be informed immediately instead of having to wait about 4 seconds or so. This post has been edited by Grayson Peddie: Apr 9 2008, 05:53 PM |
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