My M1 mistake of the day

So made a major goof and wanted to share so others know. Yesterday I noticed I never got a text from the M1 that my wife set the alarm when she left for work. I called the house and used the phone remote to confirm it was not armed. There was a "violation" that one interior door was not closed between the sunroom and the house. I called my wife and she said she did this on purpose since she was having some people over and wanted the sunroom to acclimate to the house temps...ok. So I reminded her she could do a bypass, but that was going no where.

So I called the M1 back and was trying to figure out if I could do a bypass on the phone. I was in the "arming" menu and the first time it replied that the home is "not ready". I happened to try again to arm away and then it said "armed". Hmmm, ok so I thought it bypassed the door being opened. I got a reply that "exit delay is about to expire" and then the phone cut off.

2 seconds later my mobile got a text that "alarm is active!" (message I setup). Oh crap, I now realized that it did not bypass, but rather armed and saw the door as being violated. I tried calling back the M1 but it now captured the line and would not let me in. After a few retries (seemed like forever) I got in and disarmed the house.

I then get a call on my mobile from Alarm Relay stating that my sunroom door was violated (they even got the zone name correct) and they dispatched the police. Since I have them call the house first and then if no reply (or incorrect reply) call police, then my cell, I predicted this is what they were going to do. Oops, I asked if the can cancel the police and they said they will attempt to. I think they did since my neighbors said they never saw any activity at my house.

So be warned with M1 remote phone, there is no bypassing that I can figure out. And if you try to arm repeatedly, it will arm, and not bypass the violated zones.

Maybe consider what I did so you never have to bypass interior zones - set them up on a separate area which is controlled by area 1 (assuming that is your house area). It will automatically arm any ready zones and bypass those which are not. When you arm an area directly with the keypad you will need to manually bypass, but if you use the rules engine it will do it automatically. I found this out when I interfaced keyfobs directly to a zone for arming/disarming.

The system can be armed in such a way to automatically bypass violated zones. I set mine up 3 years ago and forget how I did it. But I have it such that arming with my keyfob, which closes a zone, which triggers a rule, which arms the system, results in automatic bypass of violated zones. So it can be done if you want to investigate further.

Force Arm. Works quite well as a zone attribute on certain doors.

DELInstallations said:

Force Arm. Works quite well as a zone attribute on certain doors.

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Good point. The only thing to know is force arm requires you to enter your code.

Lou-
You are doing the same thing as I am. You don't remember how to do it because the system did it for you

My main point is on the phone access part. I dont think you can do a bypass via phone, unless I am missing that menu option.
I will look into the multi area part, but even with this setup, via phone not sure it would work.

Multi-areas would work with the phone setup - you'd be telling it to arm/disarm the main area and the rules would take care of the interior area and automatically bypass anything that's violated.

Another option of course is to get a good smartphone app - then you have complete control of the entire system and visibility to what's going on.

One more option is to create a Task that arms the system - tasks can be executed from the telephone easily, then you can use rules to handle the arming which will in turn automatically bypass the violated zones.

video321 said:

Good point. The only thing to know is force arm requires you to enter your code.

Lou-
You are doing the same thing as I am. You don't remember how to do it because the system did it for you

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Not 100% true. I run a couple of rules on my personal M1 as well as some client's panels. My own home has time and F key based rules for arming partitions and force arm, my panel always arms at 9 PM irregardless of the points open, in my case I have windows and a couple of doors open. In at least one client's house, their garage (separate partition) allows force arming via fobs. Basically, during the entire summer my system automatically force arms while the windows are open.

video321 said:

Good point. The only thing to know is force arm requires you to enter your code.

Lou-
You are doing the same thing as I am. You don't remember how to do it because the system did it for you

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Not 100% true. I run a couple of rules on my personal M1 as well as some client's panels. My own home has time and F key based rules for arming partitions and force arm, my panel always arms at 9 PM irregardless of the points open, in my case I have windows and a couple of doors open. In at least one client's house, their garage (separate partition) allows force arming via fobs. Basically, during the entire summer my system automatically force arms while the windows are open.

Yes - force-arming via a rule automatically bypasses the open zones; but hitting the "Away" or "Stay" buttons will require the use of a code. Rules can be triggered by f-keys, fobs, tasks, etc.

video321 said:

Good point. The only thing to know is force arm requires you to enter your code.

Lou-
You are doing the same thing as I am. You don't remember how to do it because the system did it for you

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Yes, I remember now. I discovered after the fact that the vioated zones bypass automatically when arming by a rule.
Any zone does this (except perhaps non-bipassable zones, haven't tested that since I don't have any designated as such on my system). They don't have to have the force arm attribute checked.
It is simpler to arm this way since you don't have to type in the code. You could have an f-key arm despite open zones without manually bypassing them or typing in the code as with force arm. The downside is that if you don't pay attention to what zones are open, you might not be protecting your house as much as you would like.
When the zones are bypassed this way I am pretty sure that they are not in a "force arm" mode. In other words, they are actually bypassed and do not get added into the secured area if you close them after the arming.

Lou Apo said:

When the zones are bypassed this way I am pretty sure that they are not in a "force arm" mode. In other words, they are actually bypassed and do not get added into the secured area if you close them after the arming.

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IIRC, yes they do