looking for advice on garage door keypad for elk

jwest

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I'd like to have a number coded keypad on my workshop/garage, which is a separate building from my house. It's all controlled by an ELK M1G system. I was wondering if someone had a suggestion for a numeric keypad to open the garage door. I would like one that is a "scramblepad" style, where the numbers appear in random order with viewing restrictions. However, the hirsch scramblepad example I believe only connects to a Digi*Trac. Anyone aware of a similar style device that could be connected to the elk?
 
Haven't used it but here is one from PCSC. Standard wiegand output.

http://www.pcscsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/ScramblePad_SP100.pdf
 
If I remember correctly, you'll probably have to buy through a PCSC authorized dealer. I have a feeling it's not going to be cheap...
 
It might be cheaper if you nix the scramble pad and go with a covered type:

http://www.keyless.com/illumspy.htm

Just another option...
 
Idle Curiosity - if you're concerned enough with security to go with the scramblepad (Great idea IMO), any reason you don't just go with Biometric?
 
Why not simply use an M1KPAS Arming Station in a weatherproof enclosure? It should easily last as long as a Chamberlain keypad door opener.
 
Why not simply use an M1KPAS Arming Station in a weatherproof enclosure? It should easily last as long as a Chamberlain keypad door opener.
I'm no expert on this, but I thought I read about it not being a good idea to have the databus outside and exposed for security reasons?
 
I'm no expert on this, but I thought I read about it not being a good idea to have the data bus outside and exposed for security reasons?

Good point. With a "normal" keypad, it is a wiegand interface on the external device that runs inside to a KAM, PAS or KP on the inside where the data bus connection is in the protected space.

Putting a PAS on the "attack side", e.g. outside, opens the data bus up to an attacker.
 
If the scrambled keypad is too expensive or too diificult to source, then consider a standard Weigand keypad. If you have mutiple users with different access codes acessing the keypad, then wear on the keys will be very similar negating the benefit of a scrambled keypad.. Either way, you can write a rule to have your Elk system notify you any time that particular keypad is accessed, to prohibit access after dark, etc.

I've used a Rosslare anti-vandal unit for garage door access for the past several years and it has given good service. This particular model has no moving keys. I purchased mine at Automated Outlet, and the Elk KP-2 near my garage provides the interface. I would discourage installing a standard Elk keypad outside even if it is in a weatherproof box.
 
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